<TITLE>19. Par -</TITLE>L-28-4 He pointed them to a cross, not to the--not to some creed, or--or not some manger or manner of denominations, but to the cross. And now, it's the same today. A real disciple... And if you ever come to Jesus... He'll never say, "Jesus told me to go join So-and-so church." He never did do that; He wouldn't do it today. No. You'll just see Him; He'll point you to the cross. Go there and die, and then you'll know Him, if you want to know Him.
Not one time did He point any person to any creed, any denomination, or to His birth, or even to Christmas. Not one time did He ever do it. I could linger on that awhile, but I--I won't.

L-29-1 Yet if it isn't important, if Jesus... You can nowhere find it in the Bible, where He ever pointed anyone to anywhere else to know Him but the cross. That's right. And that is self-crucifixion to yourself: "Except a man be born again..."
Then if the manger, Santa Claus... Jesus never did write a creed. He never did ordain a denomination. And then, why is it we make so much of it and even lay every responsibility on it? I want to ask you that: Christmas now. Why is it then that our churches lay so much on it, that you must belong to this church; you've got to say this creed; you've got to do this, that, or the other? Why is it we lay so much on it if it's not important. It shows we've got a different kind of a disciples than we used to have. They want to bring you to their church, to their denomination, or to their creeds, and not to the Christ.

L-29-3 People today, if they're asked, "Are--are you a believer?" I've asked this a many time. "Are you a believer?"
They say, "Oh, I'm Baptist."
"I'm Methodist." Well, that shows you're not a believer then. See? That's right. Baptist...
They say, "I'm Pentecostal." That don't have one thing to do with it. No, sir. A believer's a new creature. But that's what they've got it to today. See? Why do they do that? What makes people say that?

L-29-4 The other night I was in a hospital. I was going to have prayer for a little woman, was sick. She got healed. And I said... There's a man and his mother setting there (I suppose it was his mother.), and she looked about like his mother. And I was talking to the lady; I said, "We'll have prayer now." And I turned around, "You mind if we pray?"
She said, "Pull that curtain."
I said, "Well, I just asked if you mind if we pray."
She said, "We are Methodists. Pull that curtain."
I said, "Then this would scare you to death. I better pull the curtain then." See? I said, "If you're just a Methodist, you're not a Christian, so I'll just..." That...

L-29-5 Why do they say that? Some false disciple just took them that far. That's all they know. See? Some wrong taught disciple... The disciples of Jesus took them to Jesus. A Methodist disciple take them to the Methodists; a Baptist takes them to the Baptists; and a Pentecostal takes them to the Pentecostals; but a disciple of Christ takes them to Christ, and Christ takes them to Calvary. That's the real thing. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
That's how far they was brought. They'd only been brought that far. See? If they--they say... Well, a Baptist, or a Methodist, or Presbyterian, or what, that's all the further they been brought. Catholic, whatever it is, that's all the farther they been brought, so that's all they know. But thank God, these disciples knowed Jesus, so they took him to--they took these Greeks to where they knowed was Truth. And a real disciple of Christ that's ever found Christ, takes the--the seeker straight to Jesus; and Jesus points them to Calvary, where they die with Him and are borned again, anew. Oh, my. That's as far as they are...


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